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2000 dollars for Seat Repair

the Dealer only thing that can be done is replace the seat assm that contains the motor give 2000.00
the Shop down the street can't find any parts (OEM or 3rd party)

This is should be a recall... at very lest

this is very dangerous!!
that the owner of the car can't manual set the seat in a safe position
But that it locks when the motor fails in a unsafe and unusable positions
This way Toyta can steal 2G from the poor owner !!

Posted by: pweber
by: ok4450 05/05/2008 9:37:02 PM
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This is an earlier model but a quick look at several '03 Camrys showed them to be similar.
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If not, your best bet is what I suggested earlier. Hit a reputable salvage yard up and if they don't have one ask them if they can locate one with their parts locator which often ties them to a thousand or so salvage yards.
The yards generally use a Hollander Interchange which will tell them immediately what seat fits what years, etc. and chances are it would be a far sight cheaper than 2 grand.

(And I would not even mention to any salvage yard just how pricy that seat and/or motor is. No sense in throwing fuel on the fire!)
by: MG McAnick 05/05/2008 10:33:27 PM
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I got your parts locator right here: www.car-part.com You don't have to waste your time on the phone, or the salvage yard's time trying to find your seat.

I've never given more than $100 for a complete power seat without its own self contained side airbag. Those with airbags can get expensive. Does yours have them in the seat?
by: pweber 05/05/2008 10:43:10 PM
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by: hoffmalr 05/06/2008 9:01:34 AM
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I gave uneedapart.com a try a few weeks ago when I was looking for a used strut and my mechanic couldn't find one locally, and I was really happy with it. I got about 10 quotes in 5 minutes from salvage yards across the country, but some local ones too. Sorry for sounding like an advertisement. :)

Pweber, you'll just need to enter the year, make, and model of your car and what you're looking for, and then check your email. It's really pretty simple.
by: MG McAnick 05/05/2008 10:34:51 PM
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by: jtsanders 05/06/2008 11:38:11 AM
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The dealer may have identified the part number on the estimae. Use that number to cross reference at the surplus parts dealer.

I also did a web search and came up with a possible fix. The author took the motor out and pried it open. It had a dark ring on the windings. he cleaned it off, reassembled the motor and it worked. The carbon brushes wore off and contact was no longer made. It *might* (or might not) work for you. But all it took was a little time and the other guy was back in business.
by: Cal Learner 05/06/2008 6:47:12 AM
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Wow! This is grim. I feel every sense of altruism being sapped away. Give us a break here, pweber.
by: VDCdriver 05/06/2008 7:31:48 AM
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An additional suggestion for pweber: If you are thinking of sending a letter to Toyota regarding your problem, have somebody else compose and type the letter for you. A friend or relative with good English skills might be able to achieve a more positive result for you.
by: TwinTurbo 05/06/2008 8:39:09 AM
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Here's my suggestions;

First, I would try to fix the seat. I'd be sure it was the motor before going any further. If I couldn't fix the motor, I'd move on to the next step-

While trying to locate a replacement part, I would disassemble the motor from the seat frame and position it into the comfortable spot for me and then re-install the motor. This will essentially lock the seat into that position.

Next, check with a local salvage yard to see if they have any type of interchange manual. This will help you to determine which model years have the same seat motor and hopefully, expand the number of "donor" cars that will work. Some salvage yards are tied into a system connecting many of them together and they can put out a request for your part if they do not have one.

If I could not find a replacement part, I would look for a seat with the same bolt pattern and swap out the seat.
by: psanzone 05/06/2008 9:09:19 AM
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Assuming the car has bucket seats, and the passenger seat is also a power seat, can you switch the passenger seat motor to the driver's seat? Ask an independent repair shop if this is possible.
by: MikeInNH 05/06/2008 10:18:34 AM
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This MUST be the first car you've ever owned. Every car from EVERY manufacturer...their parts prices are VERY VERY EXPENSIVE. If you went to the dealer and bought all the parts to BUILD your own car it would cost you 20-30 times what the car would cost new.

Back in 88 I had to replace the carburetor on my 84 S-15. The replacement cost was $1100. I only paid $12,000 for the truck new. I ended up buying a carb from a salvage yard and a rebuild kit....total cost was $100.

The seat motor is probably only a dealer item only. They SHOULD last the life of the car. My wifes 2 accords had power seats and they all lasted years and years and years with each vehicle reaching well over 200k miles.

Second this part probably doesn't break that much so no aftermarket company is going to make one since there would be very limited sales.

I think you have 4 possible options.

1. Pay the dealer the $2k.
2. Find one at a salvage yard. If the covering doesn't match you might be able to swap it out with your current seat.
3. Replace the seat with a MANUAL seat. Not sure if this is possible on this model..but it may work. Again if the covering doesn't match then replace with current seat covering.
4. Do a google search. Maybe e-bay. I've been able to find Lexus parts much cheaper on-line then at my local dealer. However a seat may not be. Especially because of the weight and shipping.
Updated: 05/06/2008 11:13:59 AM
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by: irlandes 05/06/2008 9:29:01 PM
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My Toyota is a superhero.
by: hellokit 05/06/2008 11:46:16 PM
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Isn't the passenger's seat adjustable? Why can't you use the entire passenger's seat, or (if it's powered), use its motor in the driver's position? Put the driver's seat in the passenger's position.
Updated: 05/06/2008 11:47:57 PM
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by: ok4450 05/07/2008 1:03:36 AM
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Just a suggestion. Since that 2000 bucks is obscene then anything is fair game at this point.
What about removing the seat and paying a visit to a local electric motor rewind shop? These shops often have books with motor cross-references and in the event they can't make a match then it's possible they could easily rebuild your currently bad motor.

A life long friend of mine works in/manages an elec. motor shop and he rebuilds/rewinds everything from portable drill motors to 880 volt industrial motors.
There's really not much of a limit on what can be done with a bad motor short of one suffering a catastrophic explosion and even that would be a freak occurrence.
by: TwinTurbo 05/07/2008 8:57:16 AM
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I've fixed a few seats over the years and almost always the problem has been stripped gears. Those are a tougher proposition to locate just the parts but I've been very lucky to have been able to buy them through the dealer or scavenge them from junkyard seats. I find it very odd that such a new vehicle would have burned out the motor already. That's why I said I would make sure that it actually is the motor before forging too far ahead.

The newer motors might be hard to disassemble. The ones I have seen have rolled ends on the cases and would take some patience and skill to liberate the internals and then to put it back together. But nothing is impossible if you have enough determination...
by: MikeInNH 05/07/2008 10:11:14 AM
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That is an EXCELLENT idea. Just have to find one...they are very scarce these days. When I lived in the Syracuse area there was this GREAT electric shop in the Solvay NY (Ramsey (? on spelling) Electric. They could rebuild ANYTHING electric...ESPECIALLY MOTORS. I've yet to find a place like that here in NE.
by: andrew_j 05/07/2008 7:57:29 AM
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Toyota camry are a dime a dozen car(beyond popular). I don't think finding a salvage yard vehicle with a working power is that difficult. Expect to pay up to half the cost of new though, less if the yard is not really organized.

I once had my front seats stolen from my 1988 Jetta GLI 16v. They had the name Recaro on them (very comfy) and were $4500 to replace due the many parts needed(15/seat). It nearly totaled the car.
Updated: 05/07/2008 07:59:57 AM
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by: hdbill1@comcast.net 05/07/2008 6:11:20 PM
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no offense but please explain your problem clearly and completely. also please use english if you aren't able, your local library should be able to help with translation. most of us read this column because we like to help other people with problems but it isn't possible if we don't understand.

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