http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/12203.page Public Action I've done some research into the environment frenzy (Off hand I can't remember the names of my sources). A well-known professor at an Ivy-league college was granted money for a study into how fast the globe was warming. He was quickly stiffled when his report came back that the environment is warming at less then 1% each fifty years or so. He adds that this change in the environment is very insignificant, especially considering that man can adapt and change physically (Evolve) quicker than 1% every 50 years. So, either he is wrong or the entire theory of evolution is wrong. He agrees that, yes, the weather has been less predictable in the past few years, but historically the earth goes through these cycles.
Along with this, one has to look at his faith in a higher being. God made man in his own image, and he made the earth for the benefit and support of man. Of coarse there is a law-of-God that tells us that we shouldn't take more from the earth than what we need to survive, and this should be all the environmental policy we need. Not everyone obeys that law. History tells us this fact. But, "Consider the lillies of the field. They toil not, neither do they labor.....:" Doesn't the sun also shine on the sinners?
I think we need to worry more about the rapture, than Al Gore's worries. ]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997830 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997830 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997818 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997818 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#989438 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#989438 GMT
That is one view and not an unreasonable one, but there is another view and it is equally unreasonable.

The fact is the situation is a matter of different opinions based on an incomplete set of facts. ]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#988813 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#988813 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#984222 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#984222 GMT
I'm in favor of continuing to develop technology to clean up emissions. But the whole carbon footprint thing is Hollywood run amuck.

JMHO.
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I think any system where you force anybody to do things they otherwise would not do (or want to do) is not workable and sustainable in the long run. We need to find ways to get people to WANT to reduce carbon emissions (and energy consumption). Unfortunately - 10 to 15 years ago was the deadline to act. Changing people takes a long time to implement and we are out of time.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#982417 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#982417 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997812 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997812 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#987636 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#987636 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#982234 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#982234 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#982213 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#982213 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979662 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979662 GMT http://wat...hgodve7m-w
The idea sound incredible.

goernie
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I only found one scholarly reference on this subject during a quick search. A Florida State climatologist and a NASA climatologist reviewed 8 years of satellite pictures of the Sahara. During dry years the Sahara extended southward, but it retreated north to about the original boundaries during wet years. The net effect is that the Sahara remains about the same size. This was not a long term study; many of the other references on line seemed to say that the desert is expanding south. But they weren't direct from the researchers.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979613 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979613 GMT
In any case, increased CO2 levels are encouraging plant growth in the Sahara desert, shrinking the desert, but making more fertile and farmable land, and more land in which to live on.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979495 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979495 GMT
Global warming is a climatological phenomenon, not weather. Weather is short term, climate is long term. And there is still considerable debate on whether there really is global warming in the sense that it is artificially (human) generated. The problem is deducing whether increased carbon dioxide levels lead to the increase in average global temperature or whether they just happen to occur at about the same time. I'm still not sure what to believe, although there are some respectable climatologists who believe that global warming is not only real, but related to increased carbon dioxide generated by us.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979448 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979448 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979411 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979411 GMT
I'm not sure that buying carbon credits from someone who premisses to plant a few trees is such a good idea.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979285 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979285 GMT
Anyway, I won't get into a 'global warming' discussion. But these 'credits' won't solve the problem, if it exists. It would seem to be simply a money grab, perpetuated by people who prey on others gullibility and their desire to change the world with their money while not actually doing anything about the problem. I think it ranks up there with some of the mileage improver scams, and we all know what I think about those...]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979280 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979280 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979277 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979277 GMT
Al Gore wants a 12% reduction from that 1990 level, so we're well ahead. I did learn theat Al's house consumes more electricly in one month than mine does in a whole year. Also, all his air travel generates a lot of greenhouse gasses, as well as oxides of nitrogen. Aiplanes do not have catalytic converters.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#998018 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#998018 GMT http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997615 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#997615 GMT
If they all worked as expected, carbon offsets would indeed reduce global warming.]]> http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979267 http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/904012.page#979267 GMT
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