President Bush says, Iran remains a threat to the world despite new intelligence saying the country may not be building nuclear weapons.
Do you consider Iran a threat to the United States?
Did you think Teheran is now less of a threat after the intelligence assessment that Iran probably abandoned its nuclear weapons program in 2003? Should the United States continue to pursue new sanctions?
If not, how do you figure? Considering events over the past 7 years, I don't see how anyone can continue to believe that GWB has the interests of our people [much less the rest of the world's] at heart.
You are free to prove me wrong, but Bush blew several opportunities to advance relations with Iran and instead created a much more unstable situation there, with his insipid 'Axis of Evil' speech...and the consequences thereof.
He does, however, represent and advance the interests of the Republican party pretty well....both inside and outside the parameters of law.
I traveled internationally a couple times last year, I would say that the rest of the world definitely sees the US as greatest threat to peace, the environment, economically, etc.- they think we are economic, social and military terrorists who want to shove our culture down their throats while also killing anyone who gets in our way when we come to take their natural resources for our greedy corporations!
They didn't think that when we saved Europe from Hitler, did they? Go visit the cemetaries where thousands of US treasure are buried after Normandy. Saudi Arabia and Kiuwait didn't think so when Sadam invaded Kuiwait did they? They sure do like the billions of dollars in aid we send all over the world, don't they? If we are such terrorists, why are people from all over the world trying to get here? Keep agreeing with America haters. One day America can be a third world country without freedom and you can all live happily ever. Except if you criticize the government then, you might be beheaded.
Its Kuwait, not Kiuwait or Kuiwait. Your argument that those who criticize the current American government are somehow haters of America does not make sense. The readers of these comments have a much higher interlectual level for this type of argument.
I was responding to comments about people around the world who think we are terrorists and a threat to peace except when they need our help. Criticizing government policies is quite different than saying the President of the United States is a terrorist and a threat to our country. Is that your idea of a higher intellectual(not interlectual) level of discussion?
Holly, how old are you? Have you travelled outside the united states? Do you know what an ugly american was/is? Do you know what provincialism is? Forgive me, but you sound much as I believe I sounded at about the age of 16...maybe 20...repeating sound bites of what I thought I had hear my father (a veteran of WWII and Korea) say.
I have corresponded with people on many continents, and have no doubt that much of the world has come to regard him as the greatest threat to the well being of the world! Bar none!! And, even as a veteran of vietnam, I agree with them!!
War is unhealthy for children and other living things!
In this country you are free to speak providing you repeat the party line, no one listens or you don't come too close to the truth. Otherwise some bobble head nationalist will label you a traitor. Bush's trillion dollar war of choice has alienated our friends and created fear among 1.4 billion Muslims that we are on a crusade against Islam. The current regime tried their best to link 911 to Iraq so they could start the war they had planned since they took office. They are actually on record as having planned to attack Iraq, Syria and Iran from the time they took office after an election rife with fraud. Currently their benefactors Halliburton/KGB are charging 100.00 to wash a bag of laundry that Iraqi citizens could/should have been employed to do which would have relieved the skyrocketing unemployment. 63 of 67 water treatment plants that they were paid 10x what they worth to build are providing contaminated water to our troops causing typhoid and malaria. Fuel is being brought in from Kuwait at a 300% markup. A 12-pack of in country made sodas sells for almost 50.00. Our other billion dollar plus "contractors" (read that mercenaries) kill Iraqi civilians indiscriminately and if they are charged at all, they come home get a slap on the wrist and then return to make 10-20 times what our troops do to provide "security". Is Iran a threat? Only if they adopt the Bush policy of "pre-emptive strike" and who could blame them given that Bushco has made their intentions clear? This administration should be charged with crimes against humanity and hung from the Washington monument for bringing us to the brink of bankruptcy and WWIII all within 8 torturous years.
Any country that systematically targets civilians in order to gain power is a terrorist. GWB has done just that. There was absolutely NO legal reason to invade Iraq. There were no weapons of mass destruction. There were none being produced. The whole premise for the invasion was manufactured. GWB is a terrorist. He should be held accountable by the International Criminal Court (ICC), which, by president, we support through the Nuremberg Tribunals, in which we held the Third Reich Officials responsible for the atrocities against humanity.
By the way, all countries do not accept our "help"... India and Maynmar are two recent instances of refusal to accept "aide" from the US. India refused because they knew there was something at the end of the carrot they did not want to accept. Mayanmar because they do not want us in their country, partially because they know we will never leave and partially because of genocidal actions of their government.
Your argument of 'people trying to get in here, if we are such terrorists' is quite a fallacy. First, in our situation, we are not practicing terror on ourselves, but on other countries so we are, so the safest place to be is in the USA.
We do not agree with "America haters" as you put it. In fact, the "America haters" don't hate America. They hate American occupation in their holy lands, they American corporations stealing their natural resources, they hate Corporate America imperialism. There 'hate' has nothing to do with the American citizen, nor our way of life. It has to do with our invading their holy lands and oppressing their people. I think if they were doing the same things we have done to them we would be "them haters."
You probably believe that the 9/11/01 attacks terrorist against the U.S. was because they don't like our religion or people or our way of life or maybe even our freedom. If you do, you are very mistaken. The terrorism happened because we would not discuss leaving the holy lands. They weren't launched because we wouldn't leave, but because we would not DISCUSS leaving. GWB knew it, he wanted the war and got it, which wasn't about getting Al-Qaida or Osama bin Laden it was about taking control of their natural resources. If you doubt this... a quick look at the requirements for resolution will tell you all you need to know.
I would suggest a couple of authors for you to look into they document everything so there is very little error.
Tom H. Hastings
Noam Chomsky
Howard Zinn
And then just check out some of their book references
holly7 you are on the money when you mention how bleak the future in the US will be. Too many unproductive people that bread like rats have invaded Europe and now the US. They are bent on beheading everything that has to do with progress, freedom and democracy. They want the whole world to be like them, dum, unproductive, industrial like breeding (use multiple machines, I mean women) and before they will get to dominate the world, the world will be starving to death as they would have beheaded every productive memeber of the society. You can read more on this at jihadwatch.com. The future is bleak and very depressing. www.jihadwatch.com
Not all the troubles, and not one man, but the point is a very small group of men and women ARE PERSONALLY responsible for the War in Iraq. They abused their power and lied and manipulated and threatened and bullied to make their war happen. And the blood is on their hands.
It's important to talk about this - I'm glad you brought the point up. Because now we are looking down the barrel of a similar discussion. Will discussions like this one be disseminated to the masses, or will they be cloaked in slogans and lies? Proganda. The conservative progoganda machine in this country is a very, very dangerous mechanism.
I have many friends and relatives who are not intelligent enough and/or do not take the time to absorb all the information one must absorb to make intelligent choices. They must rely on trusted leaders.
The same very small group of leaders responsible for the war in Iraq. They have abused their power in the most grevious way. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES have been WASTED. Innocent lives. For what?
Why would anyone even remotely defend George Bush? The man is a dangerous psychotic sociopath.
Iran has no history of attacking other nations (not since Xerxes), unlike the U.S. and its client state Israel. The U.S. has the only history of actually using nuclear weapons, and if nukes were used in the Middle East, it is much more likely they would be used by the United States or Israel.
Cheney and his front man Bush are far more dangerous to world peace than Iran's Ayatollahs and their front man Ahmadinejad. What assistance Iran may be giving to enemies of Israeli-American hegemony is no different than what the U.S. did for enemies of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, or for the Contras in Central America. If the Iranian Quds Force are terrorists, then so are the CIA.
I am worried about the turn that politics in America is taking.Moderate candidates have no chance at the presidential election.We are watching confrontations between candidates that seem to be,ruthless,cold blooded,bragging about an extreme ideology.The world is listening and America is more and more unpopular everywere,exept may be for Australia and Great Britain.Who is a threat?.Simple answer:Who has a record on using nuclear weapons on civilians in the past?
I don't think that Iran was a serious threat in the past and is not a threat now. It is of regional concern in the Middle East. Most of the priorities of the Unites States in this current administration are misplaced and vastly exaggerated.
If you say something over and over and over again, anything can be made to sound true to the public and that is precicely what this administration does. This adminstration has no credibility what so ever. It is time for a change.
Iran has alot more to fear from the United States than we do from them. It was the United States, after all, which overthrew Iran's nascent democracy in 1953 so the British could continue stealing thier oil resources. We should not impose sanctions but be actively negotiating with Iran, makng amends for intalling the Shah and supporting Saddam with weaponry during the Iran-Iraq War.
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