In May 2006 the U.S. Senate approved the construction of fencing along the southern border with Mexico. The move formed part of an immigration bill which is currently stalled in Congress. Here and there the construction of the fence runs into local resistance.
Do you approve of the plans for a 700-mile fence along the border with Mexico?
What if native americans had built a fence to keep your ancestors from coming here where would you be? This country was built by immigrants searching for a better life for themselves and their families. According to the constitution each human being has the right to life,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I certainly dont. It will definitely waste alot of money. I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) that Former U.S President Bill Clinton did a similar thing as well when he was in office, theres still a huge gap left unfenced.Nice.Real Nice.
So, how does adding a 700 Mile fence relate to my statement above? well, if you cant go around it, you dig under it. Thats what the people who are crossing over are doing. People, we are human. No one likes to be caged up. Eventually, that fence, if its put up, will be of no use. The people escaping from Mexico because of whatever reason, will eventually be in a too great of a number and will overpower border patrol. Just my prediction. Imagine if you had a national crisis in the U.S and everybody went TO MEXICO, and when you reached the border, they send you back blindfolded,handcuffed on some B-52 bomber that can barely take off. Good luck depending on Mexico for help in the future.
A border fence is not a good idea because if one day Mexico is ever able to become a modern, prosperous nation, we will just have to take it down. Well I am not holding my breath. Our government should be putting more pressure on Mexico to pass a minimum wage, privatize their oil industry, and take care of their citizens and infrastructure like the U.S. government does. For our part, there is the same number of unemployed lazy Americans collecting welfare as there are illegal aliens working here, so all we have to do is end welfare and public assistance, and there won't be any jobs for the illegal aliens to do.
I approve of the spirit behind the fence. To protect the national soverienty and orderly immigration.
I do not support the actual fence. I think it can be done 100% with workplace enforcement in a humane way. The fence will screw up the enviorment an eyesore and is a bad image for America.
When a nation founded on the prinicples of freedom and opportunity, a beacon and a safe haven for the oppressed, finds itself so fundamentally incompetent at managing the phenomenon of predictable immigration patterns from our poorer neighbor to the south, the solution isn't building walls around our borders.
That is treating the symptom rather than the disease. The solution is only going to be found in addressing the core issues of economic disparity with our neighbors and within our own borders; either we behave like our historic values as a nation continue to warrant honor, or we become as "small" as the people currently in charge (this administration and it's corrupt assemblage of incompetents and morally bankrupt stooges) who, for lack of any true compassion or leadership or creativity, fall back into a paranoid, protectionist, covetous mentality where only military contractors and oil companies fluorish.
NO, to any physical barrior, beyond broader patrol people. What we need and must focus on is a understanding that illegal immigrants and putting any size businesses' need for increasing profits for their CEOs, Stockholders and Bosses (along with more than 2-births per 2-people families) continues to erode our quality of living and environments (which is really a part of quality of living; let alone the small affective of a huge fence). We should make US Constitutional Laws that makes it illegal and huge consequences (based upon earning level of the companies) for any size company to:
hire any non-USAn Citizen,
(Move or own anything outside of The USA) pay other countries' citizens less, work more hours, health insurance and less worker rights than USAn Citizens
and
Etc.
Absolutely not. The whole concept is ridiculous and will cost millions. What is needed is a courageous Congress developing and passing a comprehensive immigration policy, which includes a pathway to citizenship. In addition, the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security need to streamline and speed up the entire processes of bringing immigrants into the U.S. and the steps for attaining citizenship. And I'm not only talking about our neighbors in Central and South America. For example, only a little over 1000 Iraqi immigrants have been "allowed" in and settled. This is shameful, as is so much of the hateful rhetoric regarding immigration.
I agree with you to a degree. Where I disagree is where the presence of more people (both USAn & Newly USAn citizens) are allowed to destory a area's standard of living (not having enough money to support that much public services) and a overpopulated area's, of any state, environment. To me any state area's standard of living and environment is untouchable; thus, sure I want to allow as much immigration as the unpopulated areas, of any states, can have and maintain their standard of livings and environments. And yes, that means eventually there will no longer be any room for the entire world's poor, persecuted and harmed. I wish we had endless amount of space and more people did not equal less healthier environment, but it never will.
The wall/fence would not be needed if we would only enforce the laws we have and stop allowing people to enter this country illegally. I saw a comment that illegals pay sales taxes. That is about the only tax that most of them pay. A high percentage are paid in cash so they pay no income tax whatsoever. The amount of taxes they bring in does not come close to paying the benefits that we hand over to them. We provide free healthcare, which is something we do not do for our own citizens and then if they drop a baby here, we pay for that cost as well plus we make the babies citizens. Since they are illegal, they can't legally get a Social Security card, thus they pay no taxes. They also can't buy car insurance because they can't obtain a drivers license, but a very high percentage of accidents that occur here in California are caused by unlicensed uninsured illegals. The cost to society is just too high for America to continue to allow illegals to continue to enter the United States. If they want to come here, they should do it legally.
The current USAn Laws and Lawmakers are just too soft on illegal immigration, only used as a electable tool and Republican Party used allowing South of USAn illegal immigration and later easier avuenes to becoming legal immigration to get more conservative people into my state of Fl. Perfect example is the State of Florida's immigration Dry Foot, Wet foot Law (minimum requirement is exact as it is titled) only for Cubans, Cubans dominace of Florida's politics, all while immigrants like Mexicans and Haitians, Demican (sp?) Republicans are spent back and die in their countries after wards. While I will never accept illegal immigration and legal immgrants allowed to destory a overpopulated areas of any state; however, if they are going to allow illegal immigration and legal immgrants allowed to destory a overpopulated areas of any state, then at least made it color blind, not racist and not based on their former countries wealth.
Yes, as a hiker and back country camper I see heavy environmental damage caused by the illegals. There is tremendous trash, illegal campfires, disturbance of wildlife and property. There is a mindset that unless a fence stops 100% of the illegals than it is no good. I believe it will stop 90% or more and especially those least prepared who get into trouble or die. A fence is far more cost effective than more border patrol agents. The fence works 24/7. Think of the cost of one agent with his fancy SUV, radios, guns, etc. and he is on duty maybe seven hours a day. On a recent trip to the Cabeza Prieta Wildlife Refuge we saw wide open roads from Mexican Route #2 leading into the US. If not a fence, at least some concrete vehicle barriers should be put in. The BP agents we talked to say there are many drug runners attempting to get through all the time. RC San Diego
Will not even come close to 90%, because the fence/wall because unlike a patrol agent it is stationary and unmoveable, it is too expensive to put it on every piece of land illegals come in on and some of the pyshical barrior will actually be extremely ineffective fencing (even one foot is too much, like a small crack in a dam). The illegals will simply find where the at least 100s of miles the pyshical barrior is not or just a fence.
No! I don't approve of this fence! It's an overly simplistic attempt to solve a problem that needs a more sophisticated, diplomatic, pragmatic approach.
Can hunger and poverty be stop by a fence? thats the question. the sky is the limit for the human imagination, built a fence, ladders and tunnels will follow. It's this the land of opportunity, who are we to decide. "WE HOLD THESE TRUTH TOBE FELT EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL,THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS THAT AMONG THESE ARE LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS".
"built a fence, ladders and tunnels will follow"? Build a fence and real political reform and wealth-sharing will occur in Mexico and other migrant-sending nations. All men are created equal (not just in the US, but all over the world) and entitled to the pursuit of happiness (in their own countries, not just in the US).
That the whole idea behind exporting democracy. It's for everyone everywhere. You shouldn't have to come to the US to benefit from it.
03/26/2008 5:47:11 PM
